He can correct this if he is still hanging around. 0.248 For my money I can think of a couple of rods I like better than anything Dickerson made. 0.160 Must have been a real thrill to cast Banjos' rod. (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! You can do all the compensation you like for varnish thickness, ring weight and ferrules but you will still not produce anything like as good as a properly calculated compound taper rod. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. In terms of rod design I think that it is really worthwhile considering as many design approaches as possible when trying to design and assess tapers. If you want to see the justification for compound tapers look at the design of the Eiffel tower or any electricity pylon. If you want a rod that feels like a SLT then you must compensate for the ferrules and varnish and guides by adding the proper amount of bamboo at the correct points on the taper. Apparently, the 'old masters' were just building fishing rods and not too worried about picking the fly poop out of the pepper. (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? (Robin Haywood). As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. I understand your point, but you can see it is an arbitrary line in the sand. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. 0.288 Listed as 7 wt but that seems kinda heavy? .248@15 A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. This will be three tips (light, heavy and SLT), three butts (light, heavy, SLT), a parabolic and a hinge. Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. More than an eight weight is required to handle the largest of flies. anyway that's how I do it. All sections are full length and straight. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. The rod action will not resemble a straight line taper any longer. by avyoung 06/17/16 00:43, Post The trouble is, the market wants one that can do everything superbly with ease, and for a quarter of the price you need to charge to make it a worthwhile business proposition. A rod from John is the next best thing to the real thing. Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. I like Paynes too! Only trouble with the rod is that there aren't many places in Md. I fail to see anything in the manor of specifications for your making a point that you feel there is a difference between the two, in fact I would like to show you that they are, under the right conditions, EXACTLY THE SAME. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. The Paul Young Perfectionist. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. Leonard patent, I believe. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? In case you didn't get the taper before, here it is: 0.066 I have one of his 7625's, and it's a great rod, being a 7613 replica. Lyle Dickerson tapered copies Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. 0.128 (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. 25 .156 .310 Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. Removing material in the center creates a hinge aiding in roll casting ability (thank you Harry for that bit of information). It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. I look forward to continuing it, However I am off to spend a week over on the Henry's Fork. Dickerson R.W. So a 13 size ferrule has a female and male sleeve that is .203 and a male insert that is .1718 or 11/64's. My original point, with which you took issue, was: I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! First, no one casts the same. I have a tough time roll casting over about 65' with any rod, no matter how long or limber. I think of it as an 8013G. All Rights Reserved. John Pickard only way to go. 45 .216 .375 Even if EC did "compound" his B-9 taper just in front of the ferrule for a specific reason, it wouldn't negate the fact that this is AT HEART A STRAIGHT TAPER. 80 0.3 As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? The swell should start in front of the cork, at least 3" to 5". The ordeal with the broken rod changed my whole way of looking at ferrule sizes. It was a rod I hate. (Reed Guice). Pezon/Michel. 0.360 (Tim Pembroke). Dickerson rods have the charm of being different (and scarce). 30 .174 .318 0.088 My vote goes to L.C. This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. The other issue is mandrels and they just don't come in 1/128 sizes. I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. 50 0.203 148510 is obviously your opinion, which you are entitled to. Dickerson 801611-D - 8ft 3pc 7wt Posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30, 2000. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. Bamboo Tips - Tips Area Contact us to learn more about how we can help! This is a set of 13-14/64 step down ferrules. As for roll casting, the only person I know who documented his thoughts was Wayne Cattanach.. like .03%/inch. All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. Right, I've printed that off and made a brief study. . All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! Over the time I have made rods. One of our longstanding rod models with classic cane color and a slightly more moderate action. Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. Most of the classic rodmakers continually "fudged" their tapers over the years (sometimes unintentionally due to machine and pattern wear, and sometimes deliberately). Manchester, VT 05254 I think we can say that adding more material to a tip section would produce more power and reducing material on the tip section will increase accuracy and delicacy of fly presentation. Brewer Rods These rods use tried and true taper designs as a starting point. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma Powell Rods. 6-strip Tonkin bamboo If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. All measurements were taken over varnish. The Garrison tip would be .078, B-9 tip would be .059, and a fast .018/5" drop a tip of .035. Orvis passed the 60,000 bamboo rods made number quite some time back and of course is still making them. I have thougt of the 8013, as a 5 weight. (Tom Peters), Dickerson used step down ferrules, use a CSE Step down to recreate that Dickerson classic action. 70 0.271 Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? 7 wt 0.0790 Click here to directly compare the action of the 5 weight tapers marked with an asterisk ( * ) below. I'm off to the antipodes next year, and I'm hoping that the 7'6'' #5 that should be a #4 will go with me. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. if you don't have ~ 1/64 drop over the ferrule it isn't a true taper. 0.278 The 3 flats got averaged and put into a column in the center of the page. Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. At location 45, the taper shows the numbers 208/213. (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. Bob through extensive research determined the tip dimensions for specific line weights and then calculated SLT for each. I would argue that the variances are due to machine error, rather than deliberate (consider that you are tapering the strips by running them thru a glorified router, excuse me milling machine, using a worn wooden pattern board running over metal rollers, to determine the taper. well there is your answer. 40 0.180 146694 (Mark Wendt), I checked the several places that I usually look for tapers and they all had the swell starting at 80". (Will Price). 0.178 (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". Also, your shorthand doesn't describe where these changes take place, which is as equally as important as the changes themselves. 0.189 35 .186 .326 Purchased item: Leonard 38 - Bamboo Vintage Fly Rod Reproduction Bob Thompson Jun 4, 2021 Helpful? Cross Rods. Reducing material in the butt section will make the butt more limber and allow flex deeper into the butt. ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter I hope this is for step down ferrule. The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. Just give John a call and talk to him very nice guy with a lot of knowledge in Dickerson tapers. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. 13/12. Then the part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo inside the male slide 'stepped down' to .187" ID, or 12/64. (Todd Talsma), I had rather hoped that I might finesse out of someone just what these specific requirements might be. 0.138 No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. CSE made the ferrule for me. And you are of course correct in pointing out that stress numbers means nothing without the particulars of the line weight and length. (Larry Swearingen), Sorry about the double question, original question appeared lost in cyberspace. ), Then as it was, then again it will be. I fish mostly Michigan streams where you are wading the stream casting to the edges, and casting to rising fish wherever you are lucky enough to find them. 0.369 I deducted .005 for the varnish. It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. 0 .084 .238 (2 1/2" @ ferrule wrap) 0.232 0.275 Dickerson 8015 Guide Model Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #6/7, Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/3 #6, Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5/6, Dickerson 761510 RB (Ray Bergman) Fly Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 901812-C Bamboo Rod 9' 3/2 #7, Lyle Dickerson Model 6611 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 2/2 #3/4, Lyle Dickerson Model 7613 Hollow Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4/5, Lyle Dickerson Model 661510 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 3/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Guide Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801510 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 7612 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 761510 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/3, Lyle Dickerson Model 9015 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 7012 Bamboo Rod 7' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801610 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8615 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 961913 Bamboo Rod 9'6" 3/2 #7. The thickness of varnish of course was just our guess. (There is a table of blue numbers for each rod section). 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. I noticed a couple of versions of this taper where the swell was moved out in front of the grip but all of the original 1970 versions show it differently. Powered by Shopify. You simply have to then adjust the rate of change of the taper - the rise. (Jerry Foster). Help from forum members would be welcomed. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. The stepdown in the female is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule goes over the bamboo to 12/64 ID where it accepts the male slide. 85 0.3145 Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. Thanks. This in itself is a very interesting exercise. There are many ways to skin this cat. (Paul Blakley), I use the taper in Maurer's book, which is the same as Wane C's, which supposedly came from Young's mill. As for the ferrule size, I use a 14/64 ferrule. We are typically roll casting about five yards of line at very small fish, so all things can be subjugate to that. The mid sections are very different. (Will McMurrey), Just very briefly, a Castle Connell taper is a good example, where you have a curious reverse taper in the upper part of the lower half of the rod. About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. 0.205 (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. More info. I think you have fallen into the same trap that so many people do and forgot to realize that Stress Curves are only good for the conditions under which they are derived; change the conditions and you have changed the Curve. (Pete Van Schaack), Has anyone made the Dickerson 8015 guide special at some time? 0.229 First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. 90 0.329 $95.00 Made by Top Ten Tapers in Twinsburg, Ohio. 0.138 As we all know, rods can often cast line weights one up and down from their designated ones. A straight taper may always lead to a more or less straight stress curve but it will only be flat if a lot of stars are in alignment. It has a small flex area in the lower tip with a stronger butt sloping up toward the end with a good butt swell; fast rod. 0.256 42 .194 .066 (Max Satoh), Yep, the drop at the ferrule is .014 which should call for the use of a step down. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. Welcome to the Taper Archives; The data on this page reflects the work of generations of dedicated rodmakers. (John Silveira). 0.248 Rod Selection - Dickerson Tapers, < Home < Tips Area < Rod Selection < Dickerson Tapers, Can someone help me find the taper for the Dickerson 7613. As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. 0 .326 .180 While I have never cast an original (I think only a few were ever made by Mr. Dickerson) I have made a 4-5. There should be 20 measurements not 19. For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. Jim Payne. To the right of that you'll see there is a column allowing for varnish. I think it is a fantastic taper. (Paul Blakley). I always use Super Z, but I am not really into creating exact reproductions. 20 0.131 154180 To my knowledge there are at least 3 versions of the 7613 out there. (Tim Pembroke). Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? 6 wt 0.0752 Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. The only question that puzzles me is why on earth he thought this might be important for fishing the Risle, which is hardly the Tay. If you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. (Jerry Foster), For some applications, like fishing dries from a drifting boat, it could be even a bit short. The difference is for a step-down ferrule. Hi Guys, Also, some of those Heddons would have had pins through the tab area causing, in my view, problems. So the question - I have been trying to define the specific characteristic that each basic deviation from the SLT imparts to the action of the rod. . Stress curves are an integral part of this process and have to be evaluated. Easy casting and very versatile. Let's be honest about this. 0.153 It seems that a Garrison-type taper with a straight, flat stress curve would be the most likely to be tolerable. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. (Robin Haywood), This would be very easy, but would impact on other desirable qualities. There are two Perfectionists on Hexrod. . However many people may like them, does this mean they cannot be improved on? The tips look essentially the same. I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". And, it's true, if you were really screwed and couldn't get a Dickerson, and were absolutely forced to rough it with a Payne, I do think you could manage to get by without shedding too many tears. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. You can built say a 5wt using a 13/64 ferrule and any of these slopes, and they'll all be 5 weights, but if you do the math you'll see that the tip dimensions would vary greatly. 0.168 by canerodscom 05/09/09 02:32, Post Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. Used but very good serviceable condition. 75 0.2855 I have also noticed the mention of a Dickerson 8014GS. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. Get information on services and amenities, security protocols, health and safety measures, and more. I add a few thousandths to the last 3 inches to get a better fit. Casting range allows for some delicacy up close and personal, to the times that you want to reach out and touch someone a bit further away. It sounds very interesting. The long column to the right of that is what we think the raw cane would have measured, subtracting for varnish, and interpolating between our measurements so as to put everything back on 5-inch stations. 55 0.217 145405 He has two Dickerson 7613 tapers, from 1952 and 1970, that show dimensions for a butt ferrule that would be 14/64 and a tip ferrule of 13/64. (Mark Wendt), Well, Payne sure has Dickerson beat for workmanship and material. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. ferrules, such as Mr. Youngs can be made to fit such a drop but the historical norm was to fit to the smaller diameter. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. 45 0.186 158623 I just wanted to make the point that there's a difference between a rod with a straight taper and one with a straight, flat stress curve. Your projected experiment may be described as simplistic and wasteful of time by some, but I think that you will learn a very great deal about what you personally like about taper rates. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. Dickerson Rods. It is quite different that the Garrison math method. 30 0.151 166917 25 0.142 158834 Forgot to mention before, Rich Jezioro is taking a set of 11-12/64 ferrules to Grayling for the silent auction for me, so if anybody's interested you can see them there if you're attending. 0.078 I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. 60 0.242 0.214 The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. 0.350 0.120 Post Dennis looked over his rod and it, too, has two nodes right next to each other. One of our most recognizable rod models with a deep flamed color and crisper action. 0.292 The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. 0.288 The file will convert hex tapers to Quad, Penta, Hex, Hepta and Oct tapers. So it seems that we are actually in complete agreement. Measure over original varnish. Maybe they were off a little but I have no reason to believe that if his 13 die were 13.5 he would not have marked it thusly. (Inches) (Inches) Stress If so, which would work best as an all-around rod for lakes/ponds and steelhead/salmon? I'm just curious if you have a procedure to do this compensation on the taper itself or if you do this by stress calculation methods? Bogart Classic Wet Fly Rod 8.5 ft 5 wt Tip 5/64 For a DT #4 Here is a good classic wet fly taper that a real conisour of fly fishing would enjoy. (Peter Jones) It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. by thramerrods 06/17/16 04:28, Post Nowadays, some guys machine ferrules out of bar stock, and they have a reasonable way to make the openings different sizes on the top and bottom. This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. (Bob Norwood). (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. 35 .188 .332 I just put stepdown ferrules on my first rod, an 8014 Dickerson. I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. Why do you think a7'6" rod is short for a #5 ? Jim Schaaf. The point is this: a straight taper only leads to a flat stress curve, as you say, UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. (Robin Haywood). In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. Taper or point me in the original posting or was lost in cyberspace Dickerson rods the. A tip of.035 finding the right CONDITIONS down from their designated ones has anyone made the Dickerson down! Not be improved on what you have done is show the slope to the taper Archives the... 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